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I don’t know if anyone has read this Slate article from yesterday, critiquing craft beer for excessive hops. I just became aware of it today via a local blogger. In my opinion her response is both interesting and relevant. I don’t think you can blame Hops for turning folks off from craft beer. If you can’t find mildly hopped craft beer at you grocery store or watering hole, I don’t think you have your eyes open. And if anyone tries to cut back on my hops, it’s going to be a problem.

Slate: Against Hoppy Beer Link

DitchChicken Blog Post: Link

I admit I sorta love this article just for the meme.

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Date: 2013-05-18 04:29 pm (UTC)
feuervogel: (hurra bier!)
From: [personal profile] feuervogel
I, for one, grow weary of the US craft brewers' penchant for MOAR HOPS and contests to see who can make the hoppiest beer.

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Date: 2013-05-18 08:58 pm (UTC)
feuervogel: (hurra bier!)
From: [personal profile] feuervogel
I primarily drink hefeweizen, Belgians, and Flemish browns. I'll drink a stout, porter, or black ale on occasion. The bittering hops really don't appeal to me, so I generally end up drinking imports or US-made versions of foreign beers (New Belgium, say, or Ommegang).

Pilsners may have a low IBU, but they still taste really bitter to me. Or some flavor that I interpret as bitter.

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Date: 2013-05-23 04:52 pm (UTC)
ilanarama: me in Escalante (yatta!)
From: [personal profile] ilanarama
I enthusiastically second this!

But I also think that both the article and the response are kind of...perpendicular to my perceptions? Beer drinkers don't neatly fall into two bins, those who like bland mass-produced beers and those who like hoppy craft beers. There are plenty of us who won't touch a Bud Light but also won't touch an IPA.

I mean, IPA is the most popular style for a reason, sure - lots of people DO like those ridiculously over-hopped beers. But I can find all sorts of delicious Belgians and porters and stouts and Scottish ales and browns and ambers among craft brews. It's not so much that craft brews are overwhelmingly hoppy, it's that those are the only ones that beer snobs seem to talk about. I don't care that they're alienating the Bud Light drinkers - they're alienating fellow craft beer fans who prefer other styles and less bitterness.

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Date: 2013-05-19 05:42 am (UTC)
sid: (pretty Cosmo 3)
From: [personal profile] sid
I think what set her off was the realization that her tastebuds were so used to intense hoppiness that it came as a shock when her friend pushed away what she thought of as a session beer. I looked up the IBUs for that beer, and it's 30 (Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is 37/38 for comparison.) I'm not a hops fan, and that's probably near the top end of what I would find enjoyable, and I probably wouldn't drink more than one, so not a session beer.

Yes, there are usually plenty of alternatives. Something for everyone. YAY CRAFTBEER! :-) It's just that people who regularly imbibe super-hoppy brews are going to have their tastebuds altered.

I go every year to the Great Lakes Brew Fest, and one year I sampled a lot more higher-hopped brews than I would usually try, especially from Home Brewers. They were really good; I adjusted; I enjoyed. After the Fest, after dinner, I ordered my favorite cocktail. It tasted awful. My tastebuds were compromised!

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Date: 2013-05-19 03:42 pm (UTC)
sid: (pretty Yellow flowers)
From: [personal profile] sid
I suppose if you switched entirely to malty brews for a while, that might eventually do the trick for your palate. But I'm sure you don't want to do that! So...what you like to drink fits in a narrow range, but it's readily available and you enjoy it a lot. The only reason to try to change would be if you decide you just can't live without all those nuances you've left behind.

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Date: 2013-05-22 04:16 pm (UTC)
damerell: (booze)
From: [personal profile] damerell
Cor, yes. Mine's a pint of mild, and all that. I remember some time ago a letter in the CAMRA magazine using the beautifully evocative phrase "making a face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle" to describe the experience of drinking these very bitter bitters.


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